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licensed by the state and paying taxes to it. this, all while theç federal government still views possessing and certainly growing, selling, and distributing marijuana as serious felonies. how's that going to work is the big question that hangs over whatever celebrations the citizens of washington might engage in tomorrow. on a side note, tomorrow is also the first day that same-sex couples will be able to get marriage licenses in washington. then on sunday, they will actually be able to tie the knot. that was another huge stage washington state voters approved in the last election. if you are betting on how this country will evolve in the next few decades in terms of politics and policy, two safe bets. marriage equality and marijuana. both of those policies go into effect tomorrow in washington. the truly fascinating thing here is that starting tomorrow, we will see an abstract debate, an abstract policy discussion that we've had for many years. should pot be legal? how might it change society? how might it improve it? we'll s
licensed by the state and paying taxes to it. this, all while theç federal government still views possessing and certainly growing, selling, and distributing marijuana as serious felonies. how's that going to work is the big question that hangs over whatever celebrations the citizens of washington might engage in tomorrow. on a side note, tomorrow is also the first day that same-sex couples will be able to get marriage licenses in washington. then on sunday, they will actually be able to tie...
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it's not the tax cuts going into effect. and -- >> you mean the millions of dollars -- >> the cuts that will be forced through in the next two years. that's a much bigger risk to the economy. >> therefore? >> therefore, if the president lets this thing -- look, the markets have already priced this in. >> i hear the opposite. i hear that they believe that grown-ups will do the job when they have to. they don't believe they're going to let us go over the cliff. >> i don't think the grown-ups believe they have to do the job by january 1st. i believe they believe the grown-ups have to do the job by january 30th or february 15th. >> they're going to believe the politicians can get the job done when they failed to get it done by january 1st. they're then going to believe -- >> i hear what steve is saying there. i'm standing in your camp, which is a rare spot for me to be in, standing in chris's camp here, but i think you're right. i think the markets have not baked this into their equation. >> dysfunction and childishness. >> dysf
it's not the tax cuts going into effect. and -- >> you mean the millions of dollars -- >> the cuts that will be forced through in the next two years. that's a much bigger risk to the economy. >> therefore? >> therefore, if the president lets this thing -- look, the markets have already priced this in. >> i hear the opposite. i hear that they believe that grown-ups will do the job when they have to. they don't believe they're going to let us go over the cliff....
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remember, the president, two years ago, extended all of the tax cuts, including the tax cuts for top earners, on the grounds that the economy was so weak, it couldn't take the blow and the withdrawal in effect of money from the economy by doing that. so to some degree, the administration itself is evolving with changing economic circumstances. at some point, when you get in a recovery, and the administration's making the case and job numbers tell us we are recovering and other economic data do, too, you say some of the things we enacted as emergency measure during the great recession are going to either be taken away or tapered down. and that's part of the logic of including some cuts or some reduction in the extension of unemployment, food stamps and other things. >> but okay, we're going to talk about the reality of being poor in america and the next couple of block. the notion that you can start kicking people off food stamp rolls because we're in a recovery. if you look at how much money people are make, the stats, economic impact of giving a person a dollar in food stamps equals
remember, the president, two years ago, extended all of the tax cuts, including the tax cuts for top earners, on the grounds that the economy was so weak, it couldn't take the blow and the withdrawal in effect of money from the economy by doing that. so to some degree, the administration itself is evolving with changing economic circumstances. at some point, when you get in a recovery, and the administration's making the case and job numbers tell us we are recovering and other economic data do,...
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they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect elizabeth warren, a champion of financial reform, will get a spot on the banking committee. >>> and senator john mccain hints he might favor filibuster reform. debbie stabenow is here on rule changes. stay with us. we're right back. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. th
they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect...
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tonight's question, will radical republicans ever agree to a tax hike deal? text "a" for yes and text "b" for no to 622639. you can always go to our blog and leave a comment. we'll bring you the results later on in the show.ç >>> joining me tonight, congressman steny hoyer of maryland, the house democratic whip. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. appreciate it. >> always good to be with you, ed. thanks. >> got some folks nervous talking about entitlements. when you say entitlement cuts are on the table, what does that mean and how far are you willing to go? >> well, when i say everything needs to be on the table, ed, i want everybody to put their cards on the table and tell me what they want to do. i want not only to see that myself, i want to see what others want to do, including my republican colleagues, in terms of entitlements. now, there are some things we are absolutely not going to do, as you well know. made it very clear during the election, we're not going to voucherize medicare. we're not going to privatize security. we believe very st
tonight's question, will radical republicans ever agree to a tax hike deal? text "a" for yes and text "b" for no to 622639. you can always go to our blog and leave a comment. we'll bring you the results later on in the show.ç >>> joining me tonight, congressman steny hoyer of maryland, the house democratic whip. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. appreciate it. >> always good to be with you, ed. thanks. >> got some folks nervous talking...
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no new taxes. >> read my lips, no new taxes. george h.w. bush hammered that mantra to win the white house in 1988. but just two years later, the reagan deficits were skyrocketing and president bush was forced to change his most famous line. >> long and bitter battle over the budget officially ended last night. president bush put his signature on the deficit reduction package, including $140 billion in tax increases. >> tax increases. that was a turning point for the modern republican party. the right wing went crazy. and george bush lost re-election. since then the party's been committed to never compromising on the tax issue, no matter the deficit. no congressional republican has voted for an increase in taxes since 1990. think about it. for nearly a quarter of a century, no new income taxes. in the current congress, 236 house republicans vowed never to raise taxes. 40 gop senators also kept that pledge. even president george w. bush, the man who got us into two wars we didn't pay for. the president who exploded our deficit. he insisted th
no new taxes. >> read my lips, no new taxes. george h.w. bush hammered that mantra to win the white house in 1988. but just two years later, the reagan deficits were skyrocketing and president bush was forced to change his most famous line. >> long and bitter battle over the budget officially ended last night. president bush put his signature on the deficit reduction package, including $140 billion in tax increases. >> tax increases. that was a turning point for the modern...
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to a higher tax rate. i think they would be fine getting rid of some of the loopholes, but if this goes to where it's just higher tax rates on the rich and very little spending cuts, they little reform, i think there will be huge outrage. >> how about a sizable adjustment in entitlements, a big -- billions of dollars in cuts in regular spending, appropriations spending, and a reduction in the rich person's tax rate, a rise to 37% or 38%, would that sell with the right or not? >> i think there's a chance if they would see real reform, real cuts, more than what the president was saying, 2.5 times of cuts for every tax increase, but what they don't want are tax increases now and future cuts. that's not going to work. >> okay. thank you. just want to know what the rules were in the sane world and the insane world. i think it's going to be more like one to one and i think it's going to be something like i mentioned. let me go back to you, bob. i don't know what it looks like to you. just the other day, you don'
to a higher tax rate. i think they would be fine getting rid of some of the loopholes, but if this goes to where it's just higher tax rates on the rich and very little spending cuts, they little reform, i think there will be huge outrage. >> how about a sizable adjustment in entitlements, a big -- billions of dollars in cuts in regular spending, appropriations spending, and a reduction in the rich person's tax rate, a rise to 37% or 38%, would that sell with the right or not? >> i...
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a little the taxes they are talking about. no one likes to pay more taxes, but the effect on the market, the things that are being proposed would be overstated. i don't think a downgrading by the credit agencies is factored into people's thinking. so that part of it, if they do something that makes the credit agencies, all of them in unison downgrade as to something below, think about this, that is not a good thing. that disturbs the markets. lou: so and other smart people watched, the speaker off fumbled through his rhetoric to say how tough he is and how resolute the white house will be in all of this. the reaction is in the markets, if it goes another couple of weeks. >> people are saying we are all idiots. people who don't have anything to do with washington and we have to live in places where we are the safest. the debt market or the equities market, particularly the equities market. china, germany, the u.s. they can survive these crazy politicians. lou: tell important. what do you think we can expect? >> far less signifi
a little the taxes they are talking about. no one likes to pay more taxes, but the effect on the market, the things that are being proposed would be overstated. i don't think a downgrading by the credit agencies is factored into people's thinking. so that part of it, if they do something that makes the credit agencies, all of them in unison downgrade as to something below, think about this, that is not a good thing. that disturbs the markets. lou: so and other smart people watched, the speaker...
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republican leadership remains committed to extending the bush tax cuts for all a tax bracket. brainer offer his response to the president. in an interview with julianna goldman of bloomberg news obama called the boehner plan quote out of balance. >> i think that we have the potential of getting a deal done, but it's going to require what i talked about during the campaign which is a balanced responsible approach to deficit reduction that can help give businesses certainty and make sure that the country grows. and unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks for example about $800 billion worth of revenues but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> rose: and here is the president talking about why it's essential for him that there be tax increases for the most wealthy among us. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the
republican leadership remains committed to extending the bush tax cuts for all a tax bracket. brainer offer his response to the president. in an interview with julianna goldman of bloomberg news obama called the boehner plan quote out of balance. >> i think that we have the potential of getting a deal done, but it's going to require what i talked about during the campaign which is a balanced responsible approach to deficit reduction that can help give businesses certainty and make sure...
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. >> what i've suggested is let's put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. let's let those go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform. we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close. and it is possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point. >> joining me here in washington are congressman tim walls, democrat from minnesota, and karen finney, the former dnc director and msnbc analyst. you introduced today in the house a discharge petition which is a way for normally the minority to try to get, to force a vote on something that the leadership doesn't want. this petition would basically bring to a vote in the house the bill that the senate passed, which is basically the president's version of the tax structure that he would like to see. what's happening with the discharge petition? >> we have 151 people signed on to it. i think we have momentum. >> how many signatures do you need? >> 218.
. >> what i've suggested is let's put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. let's let those go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform. we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close. and it is possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point. >> joining me here in washington are...
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increases on those americans who are working and paying taxes to support them that's insane. you know the only thing really insane here is that nugent actually thinks people care what he gets and the very very ugly greg gutfeld gutfeld is one of the magical talking heads on fox news is the five on the show yesterday the group was talking about the job on belcher murder or suicide tragedy bob eckel boxes to open liberal broaden the discussion to gun violence in america as a whole. didn't like it especially didn't like it when back and suggested that thousands of kids are killed every year by gun violence and take a look. there were more kids killed in our country that our but i can't find a way but you sure give me a g.a.o. the five eighty five or seventy one what what do you think that's from what did you just say what it is what it is what a seventeen year old was killed by a gun would you call that bob that's called. by which one is that across the aisle that you know you get out you say that makes you proud that's ridiculous that's right in the back of a liberal a lot of c
increases on those americans who are working and paying taxes to support them that's insane. you know the only thing really insane here is that nugent actually thinks people care what he gets and the very very ugly greg gutfeld gutfeld is one of the magical talking heads on fox news is the five on the show yesterday the group was talking about the job on belcher murder or suicide tragedy bob eckel boxes to open liberal broaden the discussion to gun violence in america as a whole. didn't like it...
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i think we need both tax revenue and much more than tax reform will give us, we also need higher tax rates and we also need spending cuts and it has to be balanced. i'm optimistic about this, it seems to me they're coming to common ground here on the tax side and the spending side. >> right now when i'm with the dreath democrats they say no cuts in medicaid, no cuts? social security. >> they kind of don't matter at this point, right? >> they don't matter, but it is going to be, we talked so much about the politics within the republican party and within the republican caucus in the house. but talk to senior democrats and they will tell you, even rank and file democrats, emmanuelle cleaver is important because he's the tom cole of the left, but it's going to be hard for them to walk in at the democratic caucuses that you're going to have to give on raising eligibility for medicare. >> you know the deals that were made, as few as they were recently have not been from the right to the left, but the speakinger has lost her left and the house speaker has los his right. >> there's got to be
i think we need both tax revenue and much more than tax reform will give us, we also need higher tax rates and we also need spending cuts and it has to be balanced. i'm optimistic about this, it seems to me they're coming to common ground here on the tax side and the spending side. >> right now when i'm with the dreath democrats they say no cuts in medicaid, no cuts? social security. >> they kind of don't matter at this point, right? >> they don't matter, but it is going to...
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i think this is all fiscal cliff and tax related selling here. i don't think it's core, that rumor that because they moved up margins -- >> what do you do? your brother says stay away. >> i think he's right. you don't add to it until the final weeks of december. >> he didn't say stay away. >> did he say buy it? >> he said own it. >> if he thinks it's going up. >> if he loves it so much, why don't you buy more here? absolutely. on november 16th the stock rallied, took a little bit off, and i still believe on a tact tactical basis that's the right move, at least for me. longer-term time frame it is generational. it looks most like a bond. it's a bond-friendly type of asset. that's why i want to own it. now, john and pete are talking about what potentially could turn it. you have to look forward into the earnings season and understand the potential for the number of iphones to be sold to hit 50 million. now, the reason that it was down 9 of 11 weeks, why did that begin? it began on the conversation of iphone five constraints. you wanted to order an
i think this is all fiscal cliff and tax related selling here. i don't think it's core, that rumor that because they moved up margins -- >> what do you do? your brother says stay away. >> i think he's right. you don't add to it until the final weeks of december. >> he didn't say stay away. >> did he say buy it? >> he said own it. >> if he thinks it's going up. >> if he loves it so much, why don't you buy more here? absolutely. on november 16th the stock...
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today, the government is warning that reverse mortgages are not free money. >> turn their equity into tax free cash. >> give you tax free cash. >> they are not being told about the down side. >> reporter: right now in america, 57,000 seniors in reverse mortgages are in danger of losing their home. a nearly 10% foreclosure rate, four times higher than traditional mortgages. tomorrow, the department of housing and urban development will recommend congress prohibit large lump sum payments. and recommend seniors be very careful with reverse mortgages. is a reverse mortgage the last option? >> i really think it should be. absolutely. >> reporter: an option -- >> wonderful house. >> reporter: -- linda mcmahon regrets taking. >> i hope somebody will enjoy it. >> reporter: jim avila, abc news, washington. >>> now, our made in america team is back in action, because 40% of retail sales take place between thanksgiving and christmas. and, the more items we buy made in america, the more american jobs we can create together. and there's proof tonight. one of your ideas led abc's david muir to the icon
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or dividend tax as opposed to much higher because we know that taxes will probably go higher in 2013. oracle is accelerating payments of 2013 dif dens. they're going to pay second quarter, third quarter and fourth quarter dividends this month. gordon, what has that done to trading and investing environment? all these special dividends. oracle is doing it now, second quarter, third quarter dividends this month so investors can get taxed at the 2012 dividend rate. >> it's bigger than that because it's not only the corporation themselves but corporate executives. cashing out options looking for preferential tax treatment there as well. that's just prudent corporate management. you can't fault them. stocks paying special dividends have been outperforming the spx in the time period since this started happening. in some ways in the convoluted way it's been a positive for the market. >> oracle is down, though o this news. >> oracle is down right now. gordon, you make a really good point. that's where the performance has been, the conditions paying these special dividends. when i see an anno
or dividend tax as opposed to much higher because we know that taxes will probably go higher in 2013. oracle is accelerating payments of 2013 dif dens. they're going to pay second quarter, third quarter and fourth quarter dividends this month. gordon, what has that done to trading and investing environment? all these special dividends. oracle is doing it now, second quarter, third quarter dividends this month so investors can get taxed at the 2012 dividend rate. >> it's bigger than that...
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up in the estate tax goes up. basically, we could be looking at a private stimulus package happening. >> you are talking about transferring 25 million-dollar houses from one rich person to another, right? >> you are buying stuff back and forth. the parents to give that to their kids. the estate tax is 35% on everything over $5 million and agosta 55%. anything over $1 million. it is horrible. melissa: dennis needs a break after running the 12 flights of stairs. this time this item is for christmas. this starbucks card will set you back $450. the card itself costs $50, then the card itself is $450 for the gift card. you cannot buy them at the store coming have to give them from gil.com. >> of i spent $450, it will be almost a full pair of christian louis vuitton shoes. i'm not sure they are seen holding this card. >> a person is going to say my gold card -- what happens if you violate 10 cups of coffee, do you get a gold card membership? >> the highest profit margin will be on the copy. how much is that slipups stai
up in the estate tax goes up. basically, we could be looking at a private stimulus package happening. >> you are talking about transferring 25 million-dollar houses from one rich person to another, right? >> you are buying stuff back and forth. the parents to give that to their kids. the estate tax is 35% on everything over $5 million and agosta 55%. anything over $1 million. it is horrible. melissa: dennis needs a break after running the 12 flights of stairs. this time this item is...
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with taxes going up, tax-free muni bonds are all the rage. we will have tips on how to find some good ones next. dennis: first, some of today's winners and losers. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' rst day of work. and his new boss told him twongs -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it y, but he'll wk his way up from busser to wter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and me from the great northwest. hel start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, nde'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. dennis: over 100 companies are paying special dividend. this is before the tax rate on dividends could more than double in january. liz macdonald is here. >> already munis has downgraded nearly a third. borrowed money to issue special dividend. in other words, do it before tte end of the year. in fact, half of the deals out there, in october, worked for special dividend. i will tell you so
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in taxes. but is that helping investors? well see. everybody is at the big board today. >> we are all down here. >> we are. everybody is in the family. we like it down here. maybe we'll see. you never know. >>> all right, the apple map story. if you haven't heard this story, it is very interesting. is it the australian police? >> yes. >> australian defense minister. whatever you down there. is warning people, dent use apple maps. it could be fatal. some people got lost in a national park. >> right. giving incomplete instructions. >> right. left at the dingo, right at the crocodile. they were getting stuck. australian police said don't use apple maps, they are dangerous. which is just bizarre. >> it is bizarre. feels like it is a little dire. in terms after warning. >> yeah. if you're under a national park in the outskirts, you're not in the hard streets of melbourne. >> people get lost in those national parks all the time. i get lost in them. follow the national dingos. follow the ants. they ar
in taxes. but is that helping investors? well see. everybody is at the big board today. >> we are all down here. >> we are. everybody is in the family. we like it down here. maybe we'll see. you never know. >>> all right, the apple map story. if you haven't heard this story, it is very interesting. is it the australian police? >> yes. >> australian defense minister. whatever you down there. is warning people, dent use apple maps. it could be fatal. some people...
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tax. >> our wealth editor robert frank breaks it down now. >> thanks, bill. the estate tax could go up even more and become a big problem for any kind of cliff deal. let's take a look. the current tax is around 30%. only those worth $5 million or more have to file. if we go off the cliff, it will shoot to 55%. anyone with an estate with $1 million or more will have to file. that will cost many more in the estate tax. many prefer the tax is abolished. obama wants a 45% rate and $3.5 million cutoff. that's midway between today's rates and the old rate. now the problem is even some democrats are siding with republicans. they say they want to keep the current rates. so all sides here remain very far apart. this matters because wealthy families need to rewrite their wills, their charity plans. and for the country there are hundreds of billions of dollars of taxes at stake. it's also a hugely symbolic tax. the left says these estate taxes are important to curb family dynasties. and they also cal
tax. >> our wealth editor robert frank breaks it down now. >> thanks, bill. the estate tax could go up even more and become a big problem for any kind of cliff deal. let's take a look. the current tax is around 30%. only those worth $5 million or more have to file. if we go off the cliff, it will shoot to 55%. anyone with an estate with $1 million or more will have to file. that will cost many more in the estate tax. many prefer the tax is abolished. obama wants a 45% rate and $3.5...
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taxes. >> now the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> and new polling by the associated press could strengthen the president's hand in negotiations. 48% of americans say they support the idea of raising taxes on the highest earners. that's compared to 32% who say tax cuts should continue for everyone. >> well, hillary clinton says she insists that she wants to get out of politics. but a new poll shows that the majority of americans are hoping she has a change of heart. the latest abc news/"washington post" poll shows 50% of americans would vote for hillary clinton in 2016. 37% would oppose such a campaign. hillary clinton also has a strong bid of support in her home state of new york where 54% of voters say she would make a great runner. but new yorkers are not so enthusiastic about the current governor jumping into the race. 39% suppo
taxes. >> now the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> and new polling by the associated press could strengthen the president's hand in negotiations. 48% of americans say they support the idea of raising taxes on the highest earners. that's...
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geithner said the president is absolutely willing to go off the cliff unless republicans agree to raise tax rates. >> there's no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> reporter: and on that, no progress. >> where are the specifics? where are the discussions? nothing is going on. >> reporter: there have been no real talks between the white house and republicans for a week. but late today, diane, one possible sign of progress. the president and the speaker of the house spoke via telephone. neither side would give any details about what was said, but the stock market closed higher today with traders, at least, apparently optimistic that a deal will be reached. >> one phone call can do that. okay, thank you, jonathan karl. >>> and now, we head overseas to cairo. another day of bloodshed and chaos there. battles erupting in the streets. look there, outside the presidential palace. between those two support between those who support egyptian president morsi and those who want him to go. both sides u
geithner said the president is absolutely willing to go off the cliff unless republicans agree to raise tax rates. >> there's no prospect for an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> reporter: and on that, no progress. >> where are the specifics? where are the discussions? nothing is going on. >> reporter: there have been no real talks between the white house and republicans for a week....
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raising taxes. but also he did it in a way that grew the economy and the nation prospered and the debt became no big deal and then the debt was gone and the debt clocks that were supposed to be scary got shut off. that was because of prioritizing economic growth and being willing to raise revenues. look when we started growing again after the recession. it was not long after the stimulus kicked in. the government spent money and the economy grew. that's how it works. that's why it used to be a beltway consensus when the economy needed to e grow, you needed economic stimulus in terms of your fiscal policy. now the discussion about how we need to make sure we contract the economy and cause as much pain as possible to the people who will be hurt the most by that contracting, maybe that makes sense on sunday morning, but the rest of us go to work during the week and sometimes we go to parties. right now as we speak, here's the scene in washington. at the white house, which bo obama has shown us what it
raising taxes. but also he did it in a way that grew the economy and the nation prospered and the debt became no big deal and then the debt was gone and the debt clocks that were supposed to be scary got shut off. that was because of prioritizing economic growth and being willing to raise revenues. look when we started growing again after the recession. it was not long after the stimulus kicked in. the government spent money and the economy grew. that's how it works. that's why it used to be a...
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gerri: as you are implying, the taxes, the debt tax sores after january 1 if nothing happens. >> monster. gerri: absolutely frightening. to you, you can see how people are reacting in the heartland to this. we're seeing reports every single day about people who are no upping the ante to charity because they're worried that their charitable donation will be worth less. companies are paying dividends like to have not seen in december. it seems to me like the rest of the world is ahead of congress. washington is in the rearview see, and everybody else is getting ahead of them. >> right. i say that's like every other day in america where the rest of the world as head of congress. [laughter] gerri: how is this different? [laughter] >> i think that's right. i think what we're seeing in public is a little bit different from all rehearsing in private. what you're likely to see is republicans agree to some kind of decoupling of the tax rate issue, whether they do it and this proposal that has been floated that they vote present and let the president and democrats on the issue or whether they free
gerri: as you are implying, the taxes, the debt tax sores after january 1 if nothing happens. >> monster. gerri: absolutely frightening. to you, you can see how people are reacting in the heartland to this. we're seeing reports every single day about people who are no upping the ante to charity because they're worried that their charitable donation will be worth less. companies are paying dividends like to have not seen in december. it seems to me like the rest of the world is ahead of...
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the internet giant stashing billions in tax shelters to avoid paying taxes. is that fair play or outrageous corporate behavior? especially in this climate. well talk about that. but first, markets are generally higher. dow jones industrial average up 29 points on the day. nasdaq is up 7. and s&p 500 up about 1 1/2. >> they've been that way about the last ten days or two weeks or so. 21 days until america goes over the cliff or not. president obama meeting with the house speaker boehner in a closed door session over the weekend. yesterday in fact. trying to hammer out a deal. we hope you watch the redskins win over the ravens there in the last minute. president set to speak later at an auto plant in michigan about his planes it raise taxes on the rich. our chief political correspondent live at the white house with the latest. hi, john. >> hi, tyler. it is glammy and overcast in washington today but everybody is looking for bright signs about the fiscal cliff. we have a bright side yesterday when john boehner came here to the white house. house speaker to talk
the internet giant stashing billions in tax shelters to avoid paying taxes. is that fair play or outrageous corporate behavior? especially in this climate. well talk about that. but first, markets are generally higher. dow jones industrial average up 29 points on the day. nasdaq is up 7. and s&p 500 up about 1 1/2. >> they've been that way about the last ten days or two weeks or so. 21 days until america goes over the cliff or not. president obama meeting with the house speaker...
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can the state price legal taxed marijuana to be competitive with tax-free illegal pot on the street? as people celebrate in seattle, even though smoking anything in public is still against the law there, the market will have to figure out if the cost of complying with regulation and taxes in a legal pot world is more or less than the security cost criminals factor into their pricing for running an illegal enterprise. washington state says it'll take a year to set up its pol pot bureaucracy. it estimates tax revenues from marijuana will grow to $560,000 in 2013 to almost ten times that amount in 2015. it's even analyzed pricing, quote, medical marijuana dispensary prices on average range between $10 and $15 per gram with some proceed yum products exceeding $15 per gram. producer price is $3 per gram. the processer price is $6 per gram. no price elasticity is assumed. that may be a bad assumption. in colorado, the governor has yet to sign the pot law voters passed there. democratic congressman told us before the election they have to figure out what this means in terms of whether the m
can the state price legal taxed marijuana to be competitive with tax-free illegal pot on the street? as people celebrate in seattle, even though smoking anything in public is still against the law there, the market will have to figure out if the cost of complying with regulation and taxes in a legal pot world is more or less than the security cost criminals factor into their pricing for running an illegal enterprise. washington state says it'll take a year to set up its pol pot bureaucracy. it...
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a tax cult for 98%. the rest of the people, let's listen to them. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for a handful of republicans and congressman to hold tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on folks to go up. right? that doesn't make sense? the senate has already pass add bill to keep the taxes from going up on the middle-class families. that's already passed the senate. you remember congress, they're ready to go, they're ready to vote on that same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans on board, we can pass the bill in the house, its wi it will land on my desk, and i am ready. i've got a bunch of pens ready to sign this bill. >> and 30 minutes after the president was finished, john boehner held a press conference. he gave a pessimistic assessment of the negotiations. let's listen to mr. boehner. >> let's not kid ourselves. but when i come out the day after the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table
a tax cult for 98%. the rest of the people, let's listen to them. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for a handful of republicans and congressman to hold tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on folks to go up. right? that doesn't make sense? the senate has already pass add bill to keep the taxes from going up on the middle-class families. that's already passed the senate. you remember congress, they're ready to go, they're ready to...
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republicans have offered to raise taxes on higher incomes by $800 billion, not by raising tax rates, but by eliminating some deductions and loopholes. during last year's budget showdown, the president said he wanted to do exactly that. >> what we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could have lowered rates generally while broadening the base. >> reporter: but now the president does not. he says it will not raise enough revenue. >> it's not me being stubborn. it's not me being partisan. it's just a matter of math. >> reporter: amidst all this disagreement, one area where there might be potential compromise, raising the age when seniors can start receiving medicare, from 65 to 67. that would help the government save almost $6 billion a year, according to one study, though it would also come at a cost. an average of $700 more in out-of-pocket costs for those seniors no longer eligible for
republicans have offered to raise taxes on higher incomes by $800 billion, not by raising tax rates, but by eliminating some deductions and loopholes. during last year's budget showdown, the president said he wanted to do exactly that. >> what we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could...
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. >> let's face it, he has the upper hand on taxing. >> reporter: why the compromising words? the white house moderated demands. word that the actual rate could be negatiotiable. >> will i accent it? yes. >> reporter: the problem, entitlement. and today, a leading democrat embraced the way to cut medicare cuts. means testing. those who make more would have to pay more more medicare. >> those of us who make more in retirement have to pay more. that could be a solution. >> reporter: saturday light live sub jested that republican ras bullying boehner in the cafeteria. >> he didn't have any milk to drink because -- well, tell them why, john. >> they had taken my milk and thrown it in the garbage doctor they make any progress at the white house? both sides very tight lipped. in fact, they released the same statement world for word, very quiet. david? >> thank you. >>> wall street also watching as both sides inch to the fiscal cliff. not only are your taxes in the balance so are the 401ks. and today, ood holiday bonus, gas prices. we bring in bianna golodryga. you look at gas prices
. >> let's face it, he has the upper hand on taxing. >> reporter: why the compromising words? the white house moderated demands. word that the actual rate could be negatiotiable. >> will i accent it? yes. >> reporter: the problem, entitlement. and today, a leading democrat embraced the way to cut medicare cuts. means testing. those who make more would have to pay more more medicare. >> those of us who make more in retirement have to pay more. that could be a...
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principles for tax reform. it is very short. lower tax rates. the tax system should be simplified and work for all americans with lower individual and corporate tax rates and fewer brackets. now our viewers can see who said this, would you be surprised that was barack obama speaking back in 2011? >> let's replay that tape. i would like to hear that again. he is talking some sense. david: what happened, bob? he is exactly the opposite today, saying that we need higher taxes. what happened in the course of a year? >> so what you're pointing out is uncertainty. i think people and businesses can deal with tax rates different from what they are. where they can't deal is when we have no clue. uncertainty is one of the worst things for markets and that's why, as you reported a few minutes ago, companies are sitting on this massive amount of cash. they just don't know what to do. we need to give them the rules. sandra: so bob, if we can all agree that taxes in some form are going to go up in the new year what do you do with your money? are we going to a
principles for tax reform. it is very short. lower tax rates. the tax system should be simplified and work for all americans with lower individual and corporate tax rates and fewer brackets. now our viewers can see who said this, would you be surprised that was barack obama speaking back in 2011? >> let's replay that tape. i would like to hear that again. he is talking some sense. david: what happened, bob? he is exactly the opposite today, saying that we need higher taxes. what happened...
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tax revenue? on that the president responded -- high-end tax cuts do least for economic growth and cost almost $1 trillion. extending middle class cuts boosts consumer demand and growth. meantime the white house photographer tweeted a picture of the president answering tweets. speaker of the house john boehner also got into the conversation saying, mr. president, the budget will never balance without economic growth. how does raising tax rates on 1 million small businesses create jobs and grow the economy? let's see if the president responds to that one. he still has it. back over to you. >> that feels a little bit like a side show. >> tax cuts on one group help but tax cuts over here won't help and $80 billion a year will suddenly save medicare. >>> america doubling down on secret agents. u.s. sending out nearly 2,000 new spies. next we'll tell you their prime targets -- hint -- and the price tag for you, the taxpayer, will be paid for by tax hikes on the rich. >>> the cnbc real-time exchange mar
tax revenue? on that the president responded -- high-end tax cuts do least for economic growth and cost almost $1 trillion. extending middle class cuts boosts consumer demand and growth. meantime the white house photographer tweeted a picture of the president answering tweets. speaker of the house john boehner also got into the conversation saying, mr. president, the budget will never balance without economic growth. how does raising tax rates on 1 million small businesses create jobs and grow...
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. >> let's face it, he has the upper hand on taxes. you have to pass something to keep that from happening. >> reporter: why the compromising words? the white house moderated some demands. the president say s tax rates fr the wealthy have to rise but now word that the actual rate could be negotiable. maybe not all the way back to 39.6%. >> will i accept a tax increase as a deal to solve problems? yes. >> reporter: those problem, according to republican, entitlement. and today, a leading democrat embraced the way to cut medicare cuts. means testing. those who make more would have to pay more for medicare. >> those of us with higher income in retirement should pay more. that could be part of a solution. >> reporter: the speaker feeling the heat from his right. "saturday light live" suggested that republicans are bullying boehner in the cafeteria. >> not a single member of his party is willing to share -- he didn't have any milk to drink because -- well, tell them why, john. >> they had taken my milk and thrown it in the garbage. >> repor
. >> let's face it, he has the upper hand on taxes. you have to pass something to keep that from happening. >> reporter: why the compromising words? the white house moderated some demands. the president say s tax rates fr the wealthy have to rise but now word that the actual rate could be negotiable. maybe not all the way back to 39.6%. >> will i accept a tax increase as a deal to solve problems? yes. >> reporter: those problem, according to republican, entitlement. and...
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ok so you're just advocating a naked carbon tax no. i would be in this instance getting back to how we used to regulate pollution in this country if you take a look for instance at the clean water act right when it was instituted forty years ago it said you can't pollute so we just say this is right or this is wrong and force it without you want to find it economic without trying to quantify it economically and then say so so you know the king of bhutan came up with his gross happiness index and it's a gross national happiness and kids are familiar with it and there is a bunch of pieces to it you know how many people are educated now people are happy how long marriages are last in how long people are living why not come up with something like that for our country if we're going to be setting goals that congress is going to if the c.e.o. is going to score legislation based on something right why not use the king the king of gross national happiness index instead of the g.d.p. but you know the boot means system is different than what's b
ok so you're just advocating a naked carbon tax no. i would be in this instance getting back to how we used to regulate pollution in this country if you take a look for instance at the clean water act right when it was instituted forty years ago it said you can't pollute so we just say this is right or this is wrong and force it without you want to find it economic without trying to quantify it economically and then say so so you know the king of bhutan came up with his gross happiness index...